star trek

May. 14th, 2009 02:26 am
prof_pangaea: the master (strange new worlds)
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more later, but my most immediate reaction is:

THEY HAD TO CRIPPLE PIKE IN BOTH UNIVERSES? GAAAAAH!! at least he's able to move his arms and face in alt!trek. poor pike.

also i miss mark lenard's hotness:


sry ben cross you cannot compete.

Date: 2009-05-14 10:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] neadods.livejournal.com
Mark Leonard was sex on legs and a witty man to boot.

Date: 2009-05-14 03:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] prof-pangaea.livejournal.com
AHHH OF COURSE YOU MET HIM AT A CONVENTION. ;______;

i always heard that he was a wonderful guy, smart and really good with the fans. i was so, so sad when he died.

Date: 2009-05-14 10:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] neadods.livejournal.com
i always heard that he was a wonderful guy, smart and really good with the fans.

You heard right. He was bringing people up on stage with him... and making them wear a Planet of the Apes mask he'd brought and deliver lines.

The best story, though, is how he was introduced. They told him they were going to show a clip of his work, and of course he thought it was going to be from the latest Trek movie. Instead, it was the first thing he'd *ever* done on film, some weird, mannered black-and-white thing.

So when he comes out, he didn't say how much he loved conventions or how great it was to be here, the first words out of his mouth were, "Where did you find THAT?"

He and DeForest were possibly the nicest people on the convention circuit, ever.

Date: 2009-05-14 11:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kels.livejournal.com
well, he's not necessarily crippled. he could have just been sitting in the wheelchair because he was still recuperating from his injuries.

(ok, even i'm not sure if i really believe that.)

Date: 2009-05-14 03:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] prof-pangaea.livejournal.com
if kirk went from being a cadet to a captain within three days i would really have to kill someone.

Date: 2009-05-14 04:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kels.livejournal.com
yeah the only way i was able to enjoy the movie was by constantly reminding myself that it was an alternate universe. even then, i only thought that it was so-so.

Date: 2009-05-14 04:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] watergal.livejournal.com
I'll hold 'em down for you.

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Date: 2009-05-15 10:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zougla.livejournal.com
On the second view, I think there is no reason to think it was only a few days. Pike would not look so "good" if it was just a couple of days. He had a stupid bug thing on his brain stem or whatever they said. That must take a while to get over....

Also, it's the future, but these are still humans we're talking about. It would take forever for the bureaucratic planning bullshit stuff to go through.

Favorite thing about the movie this time? Spock's coat! It's got what looks like coconut patches on the shoulders, but they zip up into a bowl!!!! Classic!! I want one!

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Date: 2009-05-14 12:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] atroposnomore.livejournal.com
idk i'm not all that familiar with past spocks but i thought this one was pretty hot.

Date: 2009-05-14 03:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] prof-pangaea.livejournal.com
mark lenard played sarek, spock's father, otherwise known as The Hottest Vulcan Evah.

Date: 2009-05-14 01:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] renn.livejournal.com
Oh, Mark Leonard is, and always will be, da bomb as Sarek.

Date: 2009-05-14 03:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] prof-pangaea.livejournal.com
i had a theory that anything with sarek in it was automatically good, but maybe that only works if sarek is played by mark lenard (see also: star trek v).

Date: 2009-05-14 02:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elliptic-eye.livejournal.com
Everyone misses Mark Lenard's hotness. He had the perfect craggy/angular face for a Vulcan, especially circa ST III.

THEY HAD TO CRIPPLE PIKE IN BOTH UNIVERSES?

Yah, if they wanted to have more points of correspondence between the reboot and the original, they could have picked something else. On a completely shallow level, Pike inna wheelchair probably isn't even that well remembered from the old series.

Date: 2009-05-14 04:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] prof-pangaea.livejournal.com
Everyone misses Mark Lenard's hotness. He had the perfect craggy/angular face for a Vulcan, especially circa ST III.

Image

don't forget his beautiful voice, either.

On a completely shallow level, Pike inna wheelchair probably isn't even that well remembered from the old series.

it's remembered enough to be a joke in a doctor who/star trek parody (with pike compared to davros). so, familiar to people who watched the original series, but probably not people who just watched the movies.

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Date: 2009-05-14 03:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elyssadc.livejournal.com
also i miss mark lenard's hotness

Oh, so true. At least we finally agree on something.

As for crippling Pike, my mom and I had a VERY long discussion about that and we don't think he was paralyzed at the end of the movie. Just injured. That's our story and we're sticking to it until canon proves otherwise.

PS. I've always thought Bruce Greenwood was a total fucking hot ass and EEEEEEEE SO HOT AS PIKE!!!!!!

Date: 2009-05-14 04:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] prof-pangaea.livejournal.com
Oh, so true. At least we finally agree on something.

WHO WOULDN'T AGREE WITH THAT? ONLY PHILISTINES.

As for crippling Pike, my mom and I had a VERY long discussion about that and we don't think he was paralyzed at the end of the movie. Just injured.

they still went, "oh yeah, pike was in a wheelchair in the show, LET'S PUT HIM IN ONE FOR THE MOVIE TOO LOLS". plus, if he's still recovering from injuries that means kirk is promoted from cadet to captain in the space of a few days, which is... awful.

but yeah, bruce greenwood was a sexy pike. good work, casting.

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Date: 2009-05-14 03:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] prettyarbitrary.livejournal.com
They don't make Vulcans the way they used to.

Date: 2009-05-14 04:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] prof-pangaea.livejournal.com
s'truth. they did a better job than most of the spin-off series ever did, though.

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Date: 2009-05-14 04:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arefadedaway.livejournal.com
Ben Cross was the one new casting I couldn't get used to, because HE WAS NOT MARK LENARD. *draws hearts around Sarek*
Edited Date: 2009-05-14 04:30 pm (UTC)

Date: 2009-05-14 05:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] prof-pangaea.livejournal.com
i was excited about his casting when i heard about it because ben cross is all tall and handsome and stuff, but then i saw the movie and though, "woooooah, wtf is up with your FACE, dude?"

*joins you in heart drawing*

Date: 2009-05-14 04:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] taraljc.livejournal.com
I am choosing to believe Pike will recover with time (it's onyl been a few weeks since they dug the bug outta his spine), and not suffer Pike Prime's fate, me. Cos if they can gene sequence human/vulcan hybrids, they can so grow him a new spine in a jar.

Date: 2009-05-14 06:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] prof-pangaea.livejournal.com
did it go into his spine? i thought it went into his brain. mostly i was boggled that they were re-using an element from the 2nd movie so blatantly and yet still managed to get the name of it wrong. and confused about why they even re-used them in the first place.

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Date: 2009-05-14 07:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zougla.livejournal.com
You know, when my the movie finished my friend asked me if I thought this was the "one of the best star trek movies ever." And I couldn't answer. I liked it, but I think it's because I never connected it with the rest of the cannon stuff. You can't, right? It's not possible.

I prefered that they "re-imagined" it, and I was willing (at the time of watching) to ignore whatever stupid things they decided to do.

also, it wasn't super boring and annoying like most action movies that come out today. It's a fan-fic movie. I'm alright with that. Fan fic writers often get lots wrong and weird.

Date: 2009-05-15 03:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kels.livejournal.com
you know, i am actually kind of pissed that they destroyed the planet romulus. i mean, i could deal with the destruction of vulcan, because that happened in the alt!universe, but the destruction of romulus happened in the original universe before spock and nero went through the black hole.

i know that, as a race, the romulans were primarily employed as villains throughout the various series, but even spock felt that they were worth saving (heck, even worth spending a large chunk of his later years on their planet working towards reunification with the vulcans).

not cool, man, not cool. *shakes head*

also, did you catch the reference to "enterprise" in the movie? :P

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