Yeah, but that's the point of the transporter room scene. Spock makes a choice Spock Prime couldn't/didn't make and acts on it. That's how we know from that point forward, their paths diverge. And he's not trying to be more-Vulcan-than-Vulcan to compensate for his human half, but accepts that he is neither wholly one nor the other but both.
He can't do that until Sarek tells him that he loved his mother. That's the difference bewteeen the two scenes and how he handles his grief and emotions, and that's the progress Spock makes as a character.
It took Spock Prime dying that one time to come to that same point in his life.
it just didn't convince me that that's what was happening. there's becoming comfortable with both parts of your heritage, as spock eventually does in the film trilogy, and there's making out in front of your fellow crewmembers. becoming comfortable with both his human and his vulcan heritage doesn't mean throwing away vulcan propriety entirely (or even normal human or star fleet propriety -- PDA in front of other officers seems like it's probably not the done thing, you know?), that idea that it was one or the other was what kept him conflicted for so long in the first place. i could have seen a quick kiss, or even a long, deep one if it was sudden, but they were just standing there making out as kirk walked into the transporter room, took his place on the pad, and then proceeded to watch them for a bit. to me it felt out of place, one of the obvious hollywood insertions.
like a lot in the movie the idea was good but the execution was distinctly shallow.
I don't think they were making out the entire time--you see them talking while Jim is talking to Chekov over comms. it wasn't until Jim walked over to the pad that you see Spock and Nyota kiss. And it didn't feel gratuitous to me? But I am also biased. I've spent the last week watching the movie over and over again, as I work on fic.
i have totally shipped spock and uhura in my mind since i was in middle school so i liked that the film posited a relationship, i just thought that particular scene just did it rather badly. like, hey audience, get it? GET IT?? which was too bad since the rest of the film actually managed it quite well.
I agree that was weird to me too. I wondered if this was how it was going to be every time spock went on a dangerous away mission. Total hollywood insertion, kinda like "well, we should get some booty action shots in case we never get the chance again."
But mostly the group of people I went with were just happy that they didn't have Uhura fall for Kirk.
dude, if they had to do it, i was sooooooo glad it was spock and uhura. and i could understand why the producers wanted kirk to see it, because it was a hilariously awesome way to undercut the whole "kirk always gets the girl" thing that even someone who's NEVER seen star trek knows. i just think they could have done that in a way that made more sense for the characters. there's no sense that it's odd or new for spock to be snogging uhura in front of people. it was just weird.
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Date: 2009-05-14 05:54 pm (UTC)He can't do that until Sarek tells him that he loved his mother. That's the difference bewteeen the two scenes and how he handles his grief and emotions, and that's the progress Spock makes as a character.
It took Spock Prime dying that one time to come to that same point in his life.
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Date: 2009-05-14 06:05 pm (UTC)like a lot in the movie the idea was good but the execution was distinctly shallow.
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Date: 2009-05-14 06:08 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-05-14 06:15 pm (UTC)i have totally shipped spock and uhura in my mind since i was in middle school so i liked that the film posited a relationship, i just thought that particular scene just did it rather badly. like, hey audience, get it? GET IT?? which was too bad since the rest of the film actually managed it quite well.
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Date: 2009-05-14 07:45 pm (UTC)But mostly the group of people I went with were just happy that they didn't have Uhura fall for Kirk.
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Date: 2009-05-14 08:04 pm (UTC)