Chicago TARDIS 2009: Field Report!
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Chicago TARDIS 2009
The Field Report!
okay so this con was fucking ace, as always. major kudos as usual to
renn for her organisational skills, and also to
ghost2, for giving me a room to stay in this year! the con this year was an amazing mix of old friends and new ones, and it was so nice getting to catch up and hang out that i sometimes forgot to actually go to panels! or maybe i just forgot to take notes? who knows!
there were loads of cosplayers roaming the halls this year! i saw two delgados, two brigs, two girl fives (whut!), two second doctors, three eighth doctors, three adrics (inorite?), two marthas, a reinette, a first doctor, several tenth doctors, an amy (awesome!), several donnas, several UNIT troops, a turlough, a romana, and i'm sure i'm leaving out some because i only saw the beginning of the masquerade. i'm glad i didn't try out my half-assed eleventh doctor get-up because most of the costumes were really great. one of the marthas in particular was fantastic. i just wish i'd got to see the reinette close up!
anyway, chronological tiem!
2009.11.26 (thursday)
first i watched santa come in at the end of the thanksgiving day parade on tv while i was finishing up my last bits of packing because santa is awesome. then i took a bus to the bus (because i herd i liek buses). the bus down to chicago was a double-decker and it was completely packed. milwaukee does not have a very cosmopolitan population, but about 80% of the bus was either hmong or korean (i would have thought korean, but we do have a large hmong population in milwaukee, and i can't tell the languages apart, *shame*); then the two people i ended up finally finding a seat near were russian; then the last two people onto the bus were australian! after a cramped ride we made it to union station and i found out that i'd just missed the metra and had to wait an hour and a half for the next. curse you, holiday schedule!
i made it to the hotel at just the same time as rob shearman was walking through the doors, so i gave him a hug and then i met up with
ghost2 and dropped my stuff in the hotel room, and we hung out a bit. before i made my way downstairs and started wandering around the lobby. i said hi to gary russell, saw
spastasmagoria's husband, then ended up talking for a while with robert smith?, who was like, "we should go eat dinner!" and i was like, "indeed!" and then lombard was like, "lols, it is totes thanksgiving you guys, nothing is open." except we didn't get the message until we'd walked around the entire hotel/mall complex and the outer layer of skin on my face was frozen. oops? so instead we went to the pizza social the con was holding for the attendees/guests, which was obviously awesome as i got to see my peeps
calapine,
taraljc,
neadods, and i got to meet
brewsternorth and tony lee! after lots of comic book talk i got a txt from
jigglykat saying she had just arrived, so i ran to the lobby to meet her. at some point the social ended and everyone ended up in the lobby. sadly, i cannot remember how the hell rob shearman and i got onto the subject of body hair, but i do remember him unbuttoning his shirt to show me his baby smooth chest. all i can say is, what would a doctor who con be without a bit of homoeroticism, eh?
2009.11.27 (friday)
i'm pretty sure i made part of the Chicago TARDIS Fire Up! panel at 10 am, but i have no freaking clue what i did after that. did i wander around the dealer's room with
brewsternorth or something? the first panel i have notes for is Can The Doctor Ever Be Female? i remembered thinking, "why the hell is nick briggs on this panel?" until he actually mentioned writing the BF unbound "exile" and i was like, "OH RIGHT." the panel was amusing in that everyone on it agreed that it would be fine and that as long as doctor who keeps going that it would probably happen at some point in the future, and the only dissent came from a couple members of the audience. Nick lamented the lack of good acting parts for women, and related it to a story from when he used to work in magazine publishing and put a picture of whoopi goldberg onto the cover of a film magazine when "sister act ii" came out, and as soon as the magazine came out got a call from his editor saying, "never do that again -- when you put a woman on the cover of a magazine the circulation always goes down. AND she's black! you pulled a double-whammy."
[discussion of genderbending the other way round from the proposed topic]
Rob Shearman: "But could you have an announcement, 'We're bringing Romana back and she's being played by Mathew Waterhouse?'"
Lynne: *shrieks*
[guy in audience talking bollocks about regeneration being some kind of scientific process that "improves" the body and not sparkly narrative magic]
Rob: "Any people who think a system where turning from Peter Davison into Colin Baker is an improvement..."
Nick: "I love Doctor Who, and I love good science fiction too, but I don't think they always meet."
Lynne: [calling on someone in audience]: "Gentleman in the tie has a comment."
Rob: "That's Tony Lee! That's not a gentleman."
after that i went to a bit of the Fanfic Writers Unite! panel, but bailed early to go see Naoko Mori. i didn't know until the panel was over that she's playing yoko in the new john lennon film with chris eccleston, or i would have tried to ask something about that. then was the daphne ashbrook and yee jee tso panel, moderated by gary russell, which was quite fun. daphne ashbrook had a hilarious story about being in a strange, eraserhead-ish play where intense dramatic things were happening on stage while she was in the front, singing and dancing and scaring the audience. she said she could see their faces as she would dance towards them, looking like, "oh god, she's coming towards us!!" at one point yee jee tso was talking about doing voicework and demonstrated by getting up and walking backstage and so we couldn't see what he was doing, and daphne and gary snuck off stage. daphne and yee jee are both really gorgeous, btw.
then i caught most of phil collinson's first panel, which was mostly the kinds of stuff you would have heard on confidentials and the like. he loosened up as the weekend went by. i did find it adorable that in the days before new who he and RTD would sometimes get together on november 23 and celebrate doctor who's birthday together. also i doubletook at this quote about the first time julie gardener met he and RTD about bringing back doctor who: "I though Julie looked kind of nervous to be giving the show to two giant fags."
opening ceremonies had one of the best moments of the con, where nick was talking about how much he loved chicago and how after last year's convention he and his girlfriend had stayed for an extra week and he's proposed to her (and she accepted, awwwwwwe). "But instead of getting married we had a baby!" (that baby is fucking cute, btw -- nick was showing pictures to anyone and everyone, he was so proud). then he joked about getting engaged as a chicago tradition, and wondered who he might propose to that year, while rob shearman stood to the side and pointed at himself. then nick was like, "and then we'll have another baby", and rob continued nodding and pointing at himself. lol bromance. paul mcgann also showed up and looked hotter than is probably legal. india fisher was wearing an amazing dress (really, i loved it!) and said, "And thanks to all of you who have asked if colin baker bought this for me."
only one more panel that night, which was the alt.sexuality panel. as you all know, i hate torchwood, so i had little to contribute during that part of the discussion, but i got in a last thought about doctor who -- we were talking about the doctor's sexuality or lack of one, and i said it seems pretty clear that he has some kind of sexuality, although it's surely different from a human's; but that probably he just draws a line where his companions are concerned and doesn't sleep with them (or at least tries not to). he has UST with donna but with martha we've got some of the most sexual episodes of doctor who ever -- "smith and jones" is amazingly sexual, with ten literally seducing martha into a dark alleyway, followed by him handling her knickers on camera just a few episodes later. they have loads of chemistry. so i posited, "maybe the reason that ten spends all of s3 pushing her away and then pulling her back, and the reason martha is so conflicted about ten is -- since ten never meant to keep her, he thought, it's okay to fuck her." i swear, the room erupted in applause!
the rest of the night was hanging out in the bar with friends, which became even more entertaining when paul mcgann showed up, and certain people might have been in love with the back of his gorgeous head.
2009.11.28 (saturday):
best day of the con. started out with a panel on doctor who comics with tony lee, rob shearman, and gary russell, which was moderated by
spastasmagoria. gary is obviously hugely knowledgable about old comic canon, and so is rob, because of course they are both sad anoraks. since i am as well, it was very entertaining. :D gary also revealed that he is the reason that no one will ever be able to reprint alan moore's doctor who comics (well, he and john freeman), because of an incident in the early nineties when they were short on a strip for DWM and decided to reprint "business as usual", which was a comic about the autons that moore wrote about fifteen years before. they had to scan the story, and since scanners weren't so great back then, the lettering came out pretty illegible, so john freeman decided to reletter it. and also... rewrite a few bits of it (mostly so it would fit in the word balloons better). they also sort of replaced tom baker's head at the beginning of the strip with sylvester mccoy's.... here is an interjection from tony lee:
Tony: [actually horrified]: "Never rewrite Alan Moore! He's got a hit squad to deal with things like that!"
Gary: "Yes, we discovered that."
it was only a day after the issue went out that the first letter from the lawyers came. then another. then another. the third one pretty much said, "marvel, marvel UK, marvel italia, etc do not have permission to reprint any work by alan moore ever again." THANKS, GARY.
other fun stuff from that panel:
Rob: "I'm actually a big Jane Austen fan, and I disapprove of the whole zombie thing."
Tony: "It's all from her original notes."
[talking about the eighth doctor strip that gary wrote for the radio times in '96]
Rob: "Is there any truth to the rumour -- that I started -- that the Radio Times strip was why Fox never commissioned a whole series of Doctor Who?"
Gary: "Yes, because they realised what I wrote was much better than anything they could ever do, so they gave up."
Rob: "That wasn't quite how I put it..."
[completely insane discussion about the first doctor doing rose over the console expanding in ever more horrible directions]
Tony: "I'm now picturing Wonder Woman, Catwoman, and William Hartnell over the console, with Frobisher standing to the side..."
also, gary says everyone should read "voyager", by john ridgeway, which is apparently not only one of the best stories that doctor who has ever done, period, but one of the best comic stories ever as well.
next was the nick briggs one-on-one! scheduling conflicts meant that i somehow missed all the other one-on-ones, but i did manage this one at least. i got in a couple minutes after it started and nick had a laptop out with pictures of his baby on it (awwwwwe) and was in the middle of the harrowing tale of the birth, in which his fiancee seems to have almost died. D: but she didn't and everything is good, hurrah! nick was brilliant, as always. he talked about everyone on the weakest link conspiring together to vote k-9 out as quickly as possible because jon leeson used to set questions for quiz shows so they were all afraid he would win it! nick told david tennant and then tennant went up to jon leeson as said, "so i heard you used to set questions for mastermind!" and jon leeson said, "oh yes!" and then tennant turned slightly toward nick and gave him The Nod of Death. which means he really shouldn't still be cross about noel clarke and camille coduri voting him out at the end!
nick and noel are apparently very good friends -- on the second day they were working together noel turned to him and said, "Hey Briggsie, what's your mobile number? We're gonna be mates, you and I." then told him, "When I make a movie, you've got a part in it, all right?" which was true! my favourite was once they were walking down the street together and noel said, "What do people think, seeing us walk down the street?" and nick said, "I don't know, they probably think I'm your lawyer!"
right at the beginning of the panel nick paused and listened to the faint soundtrack of the doctor who episode being played down the hallway from us and not only recognised it as "planet of the daleks" but then started acting out the scene! he also talked about how building daleks is a really big thing in UK fandom, so whenever you go to conventions people will have their homemade daleks with them. once, this guy was like, "hey want to try it out?" and nick said, "oh no, they're horrible!" because he's seen the inside of the actual props, and they're like iron maidens. the guy was like, "oh not, this one" and he showed it to nick -- it had a luxurious padded chair inside, a little joysticks for precise, easy control, and a little headset so you could do the dalek voice (and it lit up when it talked, like a real one) while you were riding around inside it. so he got inside and started riding it around the con and crashed a panel or an interview that gary russell was doing, yelling "THIS. IS. BRILLIANT. THIS. IS. BRILLIANT," then realised he had come in while gary was making some important or profound point and thought, "Oh no, I'm being an arse!" "I'M. SORRY. I'LL. GO. NOW."
then was the Big Writing Panel with gary, rob, nick, and tony. it started off with nick getting a text and sharing it with the rest of the panel.
Nick: "Well, I just wanted to tell you that Katarina Olsson just had a son!"
Gary: "Oh great! She's been pregnant for a long time."
Rob: "Yeah, it's been about four years now."
[i don't remember what prompted this exchange but it was something about writing]
Gary: "Rob Shearman kills kittens!"
Rob: "I don't kill them... I just watch them die."
[discussion about writing methods, and ways to make sure YOU WRITE]
Tony: "I even bought a moleskine because I heard that is the best kind of thing for writing, and so far, all I've got written in it is, 'GET MORE WORK DONE.'"
[rob talking about his old method - he likes to walk around while he's writing, so he used to go wander around a heath at three o'clock in the morning scribbling into his notebook, so often that the hobos and such started to recognise him, but finally he got stopped by the cops once too often, so he switched to writing during the day]
Rob: "And I got a lot brighter, and gentler, in what I was writing."
Gary: "Good God, really?" [if any of you have ever read either of rob's books you will understand]
[oh i wish i remembered how the topic swung this way]
Nick: "Do you watch Loose Women?"
Gary: "That's a TV show, by the way, not a hobby."
[talking about working with RTD]
RTD: "Bad Wolf, I want a Bad Wolf reference!"
Rob: "Okay... what's that then?"
RTD: "No idea!"
the best bit was probably nick talking about when he was kid, and he would come home and say, "i'm going to write a book tonight." so he'd take what looked like the right amount of paper, fold it in half and staple it, and then start writing a book. first he'd draw a cover, then he'd open it up and skip the first few pages, because they always did that in real books (i used to do the same thing when i made books when i was a kid!!), then he'd start writing the story, and drawing illustrations for it every few pages. "and then the horses ran over the hill and the soldiers were shooting and then they were fighting with swords...." sometimes he'd end up having to finish a story in two pages, and other times he'd finish and there'd be loads of pages left so he'd have to draw everything out. "and then the horses started to walk very slowly...." when he was done he'd give it to his mum to read. then the next day she'd give it back, with all the spelling and grammar mistakes marked out! so now when people submit drafts to him at big finish that are riddled with errors he gets really cross because HE SUFFERED TO LEARN THESE THINGS, SO SHOULD THEY!
next was the Chicks Dig Time Lords panel, which i apparently forgot to take notes for. drat. there was a lot of talk of how gals had always been involved with fandom but they're more visible now because 01: it's more acceptable to be a girl and a geek now than in the past and 02: it's just more acceptable to be a geek in general. there was an attendee who was dressed as the girl on the cover of the book as well! (who is nicknamed verity, btw). there was some talk of favourite companions with shoutouts going to sarah jane, barbara, donna, tegan (i think) and some others. and ngl, i laughed when the audience booed at one panelist talked about wanting doctor/rose babies to happen on the show (sorry,
spastasmagoria!!)
next was paul mcgann, daphne ashbrook, and yee jee tso. paul was quite charming, which made me glad, as i don't think he really cares much for doctor who -- not the way the other existing doctors do, at least. also, yes, he was hot. some group or another got him a gift for his birthday, which had been earlier that week, and then got the entire audience to sing him happy birthday. he didn't remember many details from the filming of the TVM, but daphne ashbrook prompted him enough that he started remembering more than he had, and he was funny even when he didn't remember anything. gary moderated this panel as well.
[after being sung happy birthday]
Paul: "Thank you, I'm touched. Well, I must be, to be here."
[discussion of how eight was the first doctor to kiss a companion, and how romance has seeped into new who]
Paul: "So what are the kisses like now? Are they full-on frenchies?"
Gary: "See, you're lucky, Paul, you got Daphne, and Chris Eccleston got John Barrowman."
Paul: "That would be like a full-body kiss, wouldn't it?"
[talking about no one asking him back to doctor who all these years]
Paul: "I'm starting to feel a bit like Peter Cushing, here."
[talking about the hated wig]
Daphne: "And you were starting to get skin issues too --"
Paul: "SHHHH!!!"
Daphne: "It's okay, it's cleared up by now!"
kid from audience: "When it comes to time travel and stuff, do you ever wonder what you're talking about?"
Paul: "Constantly."
then i missed the big finish panel and the gary russell one-on-one because
elyssadc finally arrived and we went to get her room settled and to eat some food together! well, i stole some of her french fries. fill me in if anyone saw those! and the rob shearman one-on-one as well! after that there was a trip to the liquor store, helpfully enabled by the hotel shuttle driver. i was given the task of procuring hard cider for rhonda, the gin fairy. this was followed by some masquerade, until tony lee came up and tapped on my shoulder to let me know that
fan_eunice was in the restaurant having dinner! (thanks again, tony!). then i got to hang out with her and steal some of
calapine's dinner because she does not understand how large US portions are. yay for meeeeeee. rest of the night was hanging out in the bar with friends, and meeting some new ones; you know ilu, livejournal fandom, but it is nice to talk to some other dudes once in a while! i also almost witnessed the coup where robert smith? swooped in and bought
jigglykat's doctor who nesting dolls out from under gary russell's nose, but i was talking at another table for just a minute and by the time i got back it was already over and the swearing and probable death threats had already happened. well, i say probable, but what i mean is definite. :D
2009.11.29 (sunday):
oh man. i very much overslept that day. which is what happens when you have been getting by on very little sleep for several days in a row. so i missed the first couple of panels. but that's okay, it was a pretty laid-back day in general. i'm missing notes until the fanzine panel, which robert smith? was moderating. that was an interesting discussion about trying to preserve some of the old zines and essays, as well as explore the new stuff that's being done online. robert is editing the next three volumes of time, unincorporated from mad norwegian, which will collect some of those old essays and combine it with new material and writings. sounds really interesting.
after the panel robert and i were walking to main programming for the new series panel with gary, nick, rob and phil collinson, when gary walked by us and said to me, "No talking with the enemy!" lols. the panel itself was pointless but very fun. the one really amazing bit of info in it came from phil, who said that RTD had written a long scene that got cut out of "the stolen earth" that was all about davros on skaro, showing him tending the wounded and patients suffering from radiation sickness from the war with the thals, and how passionate he was to end the war, which turned into passion to create the daleks, showing the nuclear bomb that hit the bunker he was in, injuring him and making him determined to create life that would be able to survive... in short, showing how he became davros. it sounded AMAZING. but it was cut for budgetary reasons. ;____;!! i was talking to gary later and he said that RTD had him look over that sequence when he was writing it, to make sure it didn't contradict anything in the big finish "I, Davros" series, which is quite seriously awesome. there was only one little detail that didn't fit, and he rewrote that so it would. meanwhile, the rest of the panel was just fun.
[audience member asks question with gum in her mouth and is unintelligible]
Phil: "You need to hold it closer to you mouth and stop chewing. [pause] I have never said that before."
[talking about nick pointing at people when he does the dalek voices]
Nick: "I came up with that idea when I was having a wee. I have no idea why!"
Phil: "Never go into a men's restroom with Nick Briggs. He'll point at you the whole time... Not with his finger."
Nick: "With my 'Exterminator'!" [everyone in the world groans]
[nick telling the story of watching "blink" at moffat's house, and moff's son josh hiding behind the couch just behind nick the whole time because it scared him, and his son's way of dealing with it was to whisper every plot twist into nick's ear two seconds before it happened. rob then says that moff uses his episodes to discipline his children]
Nick: "I really did hear him say, 'If you don't behave, daddy will make you watch his episode again'."
[talking about being executive producer of a show like doctor who and why it's incredibly difficult, and why RTD is so good at it]
Nick: "You have to figure out ways to be nasty in a nice way."
Gary and Phil: *exchange look*
the rest of the evening was filled with good-byes to those who were leaving, and hanging out with those who were left. it was a really wonderful con, and i feel really lucky to have met the friends, both old and new, whom i've made there.
and on a more serious note, my friend
britgeekgrrl needs a little help and well-wishing in a difficult time. i met her at chicago TARDIS in 2007 -- she was the first person i met and ended up befriending at the con, in fact. she's been unfailingly kind and last year let me bunk on the floor of her hotel room when i didn't have money for a bed of my own. the day after she got back from this year's convention her husband alex died after a long battle with cancer. it happened a lot sooner than she or anyone was expecting, so the family's been caught not quite fully prepared. so a group of her friends have put together a community called
britgeek_love to try and raise funds for the funeral expenses and so forth by auctioning off books, jewelry, mementoes, clothes, art, etc. check it out and see if there's anything there you've been meaning to pick up, or if there's anything you might want to contribute to the pool. thanks.
<3<3<3 to everyone i met and i'm hoping to see you all again next year.
The Field Report!
okay so this con was fucking ace, as always. major kudos as usual to
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there were loads of cosplayers roaming the halls this year! i saw two delgados, two brigs, two girl fives (whut!), two second doctors, three eighth doctors, three adrics (inorite?), two marthas, a reinette, a first doctor, several tenth doctors, an amy (awesome!), several donnas, several UNIT troops, a turlough, a romana, and i'm sure i'm leaving out some because i only saw the beginning of the masquerade. i'm glad i didn't try out my half-assed eleventh doctor get-up because most of the costumes were really great. one of the marthas in particular was fantastic. i just wish i'd got to see the reinette close up!
anyway, chronological tiem!
2009.11.26 (thursday)
first i watched santa come in at the end of the thanksgiving day parade on tv while i was finishing up my last bits of packing because santa is awesome. then i took a bus to the bus (because i herd i liek buses). the bus down to chicago was a double-decker and it was completely packed. milwaukee does not have a very cosmopolitan population, but about 80% of the bus was either hmong or korean (i would have thought korean, but we do have a large hmong population in milwaukee, and i can't tell the languages apart, *shame*); then the two people i ended up finally finding a seat near were russian; then the last two people onto the bus were australian! after a cramped ride we made it to union station and i found out that i'd just missed the metra and had to wait an hour and a half for the next. curse you, holiday schedule!
i made it to the hotel at just the same time as rob shearman was walking through the doors, so i gave him a hug and then i met up with
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2009.11.27 (friday)
i'm pretty sure i made part of the Chicago TARDIS Fire Up! panel at 10 am, but i have no freaking clue what i did after that. did i wander around the dealer's room with
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[discussion of genderbending the other way round from the proposed topic]
Rob Shearman: "But could you have an announcement, 'We're bringing Romana back and she's being played by Mathew Waterhouse?'"
Lynne: *shrieks*
[guy in audience talking bollocks about regeneration being some kind of scientific process that "improves" the body and not sparkly narrative magic]
Rob: "Any people who think a system where turning from Peter Davison into Colin Baker is an improvement..."
Nick: "I love Doctor Who, and I love good science fiction too, but I don't think they always meet."
Lynne: [calling on someone in audience]: "Gentleman in the tie has a comment."
Rob: "That's Tony Lee! That's not a gentleman."
after that i went to a bit of the Fanfic Writers Unite! panel, but bailed early to go see Naoko Mori. i didn't know until the panel was over that she's playing yoko in the new john lennon film with chris eccleston, or i would have tried to ask something about that. then was the daphne ashbrook and yee jee tso panel, moderated by gary russell, which was quite fun. daphne ashbrook had a hilarious story about being in a strange, eraserhead-ish play where intense dramatic things were happening on stage while she was in the front, singing and dancing and scaring the audience. she said she could see their faces as she would dance towards them, looking like, "oh god, she's coming towards us!!" at one point yee jee tso was talking about doing voicework and demonstrated by getting up and walking backstage and so we couldn't see what he was doing, and daphne and gary snuck off stage. daphne and yee jee are both really gorgeous, btw.
then i caught most of phil collinson's first panel, which was mostly the kinds of stuff you would have heard on confidentials and the like. he loosened up as the weekend went by. i did find it adorable that in the days before new who he and RTD would sometimes get together on november 23 and celebrate doctor who's birthday together. also i doubletook at this quote about the first time julie gardener met he and RTD about bringing back doctor who: "I though Julie looked kind of nervous to be giving the show to two giant fags."
opening ceremonies had one of the best moments of the con, where nick was talking about how much he loved chicago and how after last year's convention he and his girlfriend had stayed for an extra week and he's proposed to her (and she accepted, awwwwwwe). "But instead of getting married we had a baby!" (that baby is fucking cute, btw -- nick was showing pictures to anyone and everyone, he was so proud). then he joked about getting engaged as a chicago tradition, and wondered who he might propose to that year, while rob shearman stood to the side and pointed at himself. then nick was like, "and then we'll have another baby", and rob continued nodding and pointing at himself. lol bromance. paul mcgann also showed up and looked hotter than is probably legal. india fisher was wearing an amazing dress (really, i loved it!) and said, "And thanks to all of you who have asked if colin baker bought this for me."
only one more panel that night, which was the alt.sexuality panel. as you all know, i hate torchwood, so i had little to contribute during that part of the discussion, but i got in a last thought about doctor who -- we were talking about the doctor's sexuality or lack of one, and i said it seems pretty clear that he has some kind of sexuality, although it's surely different from a human's; but that probably he just draws a line where his companions are concerned and doesn't sleep with them (or at least tries not to). he has UST with donna but with martha we've got some of the most sexual episodes of doctor who ever -- "smith and jones" is amazingly sexual, with ten literally seducing martha into a dark alleyway, followed by him handling her knickers on camera just a few episodes later. they have loads of chemistry. so i posited, "maybe the reason that ten spends all of s3 pushing her away and then pulling her back, and the reason martha is so conflicted about ten is -- since ten never meant to keep her, he thought, it's okay to fuck her." i swear, the room erupted in applause!
the rest of the night was hanging out in the bar with friends, which became even more entertaining when paul mcgann showed up, and certain people might have been in love with the back of his gorgeous head.
2009.11.28 (saturday):
best day of the con. started out with a panel on doctor who comics with tony lee, rob shearman, and gary russell, which was moderated by
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Tony: [actually horrified]: "Never rewrite Alan Moore! He's got a hit squad to deal with things like that!"
Gary: "Yes, we discovered that."
it was only a day after the issue went out that the first letter from the lawyers came. then another. then another. the third one pretty much said, "marvel, marvel UK, marvel italia, etc do not have permission to reprint any work by alan moore ever again." THANKS, GARY.
other fun stuff from that panel:
Rob: "I'm actually a big Jane Austen fan, and I disapprove of the whole zombie thing."
Tony: "It's all from her original notes."
[talking about the eighth doctor strip that gary wrote for the radio times in '96]
Rob: "Is there any truth to the rumour -- that I started -- that the Radio Times strip was why Fox never commissioned a whole series of Doctor Who?"
Gary: "Yes, because they realised what I wrote was much better than anything they could ever do, so they gave up."
Rob: "That wasn't quite how I put it..."
[completely insane discussion about the first doctor doing rose over the console expanding in ever more horrible directions]
Tony: "I'm now picturing Wonder Woman, Catwoman, and William Hartnell over the console, with Frobisher standing to the side..."
also, gary says everyone should read "voyager", by john ridgeway, which is apparently not only one of the best stories that doctor who has ever done, period, but one of the best comic stories ever as well.
next was the nick briggs one-on-one! scheduling conflicts meant that i somehow missed all the other one-on-ones, but i did manage this one at least. i got in a couple minutes after it started and nick had a laptop out with pictures of his baby on it (awwwwwe) and was in the middle of the harrowing tale of the birth, in which his fiancee seems to have almost died. D: but she didn't and everything is good, hurrah! nick was brilliant, as always. he talked about everyone on the weakest link conspiring together to vote k-9 out as quickly as possible because jon leeson used to set questions for quiz shows so they were all afraid he would win it! nick told david tennant and then tennant went up to jon leeson as said, "so i heard you used to set questions for mastermind!" and jon leeson said, "oh yes!" and then tennant turned slightly toward nick and gave him The Nod of Death. which means he really shouldn't still be cross about noel clarke and camille coduri voting him out at the end!
nick and noel are apparently very good friends -- on the second day they were working together noel turned to him and said, "Hey Briggsie, what's your mobile number? We're gonna be mates, you and I." then told him, "When I make a movie, you've got a part in it, all right?" which was true! my favourite was once they were walking down the street together and noel said, "What do people think, seeing us walk down the street?" and nick said, "I don't know, they probably think I'm your lawyer!"
right at the beginning of the panel nick paused and listened to the faint soundtrack of the doctor who episode being played down the hallway from us and not only recognised it as "planet of the daleks" but then started acting out the scene! he also talked about how building daleks is a really big thing in UK fandom, so whenever you go to conventions people will have their homemade daleks with them. once, this guy was like, "hey want to try it out?" and nick said, "oh no, they're horrible!" because he's seen the inside of the actual props, and they're like iron maidens. the guy was like, "oh not, this one" and he showed it to nick -- it had a luxurious padded chair inside, a little joysticks for precise, easy control, and a little headset so you could do the dalek voice (and it lit up when it talked, like a real one) while you were riding around inside it. so he got inside and started riding it around the con and crashed a panel or an interview that gary russell was doing, yelling "THIS. IS. BRILLIANT. THIS. IS. BRILLIANT," then realised he had come in while gary was making some important or profound point and thought, "Oh no, I'm being an arse!" "I'M. SORRY. I'LL. GO. NOW."
then was the Big Writing Panel with gary, rob, nick, and tony. it started off with nick getting a text and sharing it with the rest of the panel.
Nick: "Well, I just wanted to tell you that Katarina Olsson just had a son!"
Gary: "Oh great! She's been pregnant for a long time."
Rob: "Yeah, it's been about four years now."
[i don't remember what prompted this exchange but it was something about writing]
Gary: "Rob Shearman kills kittens!"
Rob: "I don't kill them... I just watch them die."
[discussion about writing methods, and ways to make sure YOU WRITE]
Tony: "I even bought a moleskine because I heard that is the best kind of thing for writing, and so far, all I've got written in it is, 'GET MORE WORK DONE.'"
[rob talking about his old method - he likes to walk around while he's writing, so he used to go wander around a heath at three o'clock in the morning scribbling into his notebook, so often that the hobos and such started to recognise him, but finally he got stopped by the cops once too often, so he switched to writing during the day]
Rob: "And I got a lot brighter, and gentler, in what I was writing."
Gary: "Good God, really?" [if any of you have ever read either of rob's books you will understand]
[oh i wish i remembered how the topic swung this way]
Nick: "Do you watch Loose Women?"
Gary: "That's a TV show, by the way, not a hobby."
[talking about working with RTD]
RTD: "Bad Wolf, I want a Bad Wolf reference!"
Rob: "Okay... what's that then?"
RTD: "No idea!"
the best bit was probably nick talking about when he was kid, and he would come home and say, "i'm going to write a book tonight." so he'd take what looked like the right amount of paper, fold it in half and staple it, and then start writing a book. first he'd draw a cover, then he'd open it up and skip the first few pages, because they always did that in real books (i used to do the same thing when i made books when i was a kid!!), then he'd start writing the story, and drawing illustrations for it every few pages. "and then the horses ran over the hill and the soldiers were shooting and then they were fighting with swords...." sometimes he'd end up having to finish a story in two pages, and other times he'd finish and there'd be loads of pages left so he'd have to draw everything out. "and then the horses started to walk very slowly...." when he was done he'd give it to his mum to read. then the next day she'd give it back, with all the spelling and grammar mistakes marked out! so now when people submit drafts to him at big finish that are riddled with errors he gets really cross because HE SUFFERED TO LEARN THESE THINGS, SO SHOULD THEY!
next was the Chicks Dig Time Lords panel, which i apparently forgot to take notes for. drat. there was a lot of talk of how gals had always been involved with fandom but they're more visible now because 01: it's more acceptable to be a girl and a geek now than in the past and 02: it's just more acceptable to be a geek in general. there was an attendee who was dressed as the girl on the cover of the book as well! (who is nicknamed verity, btw). there was some talk of favourite companions with shoutouts going to sarah jane, barbara, donna, tegan (i think) and some others. and ngl, i laughed when the audience booed at one panelist talked about wanting doctor/rose babies to happen on the show (sorry,
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next was paul mcgann, daphne ashbrook, and yee jee tso. paul was quite charming, which made me glad, as i don't think he really cares much for doctor who -- not the way the other existing doctors do, at least. also, yes, he was hot. some group or another got him a gift for his birthday, which had been earlier that week, and then got the entire audience to sing him happy birthday. he didn't remember many details from the filming of the TVM, but daphne ashbrook prompted him enough that he started remembering more than he had, and he was funny even when he didn't remember anything. gary moderated this panel as well.
[after being sung happy birthday]
Paul: "Thank you, I'm touched. Well, I must be, to be here."
[discussion of how eight was the first doctor to kiss a companion, and how romance has seeped into new who]
Paul: "So what are the kisses like now? Are they full-on frenchies?"
Gary: "See, you're lucky, Paul, you got Daphne, and Chris Eccleston got John Barrowman."
Paul: "That would be like a full-body kiss, wouldn't it?"
[talking about no one asking him back to doctor who all these years]
Paul: "I'm starting to feel a bit like Peter Cushing, here."
[talking about the hated wig]
Daphne: "And you were starting to get skin issues too --"
Paul: "SHHHH!!!"
Daphne: "It's okay, it's cleared up by now!"
kid from audience: "When it comes to time travel and stuff, do you ever wonder what you're talking about?"
Paul: "Constantly."
then i missed the big finish panel and the gary russell one-on-one because
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2009.11.29 (sunday):
oh man. i very much overslept that day. which is what happens when you have been getting by on very little sleep for several days in a row. so i missed the first couple of panels. but that's okay, it was a pretty laid-back day in general. i'm missing notes until the fanzine panel, which robert smith? was moderating. that was an interesting discussion about trying to preserve some of the old zines and essays, as well as explore the new stuff that's being done online. robert is editing the next three volumes of time, unincorporated from mad norwegian, which will collect some of those old essays and combine it with new material and writings. sounds really interesting.
after the panel robert and i were walking to main programming for the new series panel with gary, nick, rob and phil collinson, when gary walked by us and said to me, "No talking with the enemy!" lols. the panel itself was pointless but very fun. the one really amazing bit of info in it came from phil, who said that RTD had written a long scene that got cut out of "the stolen earth" that was all about davros on skaro, showing him tending the wounded and patients suffering from radiation sickness from the war with the thals, and how passionate he was to end the war, which turned into passion to create the daleks, showing the nuclear bomb that hit the bunker he was in, injuring him and making him determined to create life that would be able to survive... in short, showing how he became davros. it sounded AMAZING. but it was cut for budgetary reasons. ;____;!! i was talking to gary later and he said that RTD had him look over that sequence when he was writing it, to make sure it didn't contradict anything in the big finish "I, Davros" series, which is quite seriously awesome. there was only one little detail that didn't fit, and he rewrote that so it would. meanwhile, the rest of the panel was just fun.
[audience member asks question with gum in her mouth and is unintelligible]
Phil: "You need to hold it closer to you mouth and stop chewing. [pause] I have never said that before."
[talking about nick pointing at people when he does the dalek voices]
Nick: "I came up with that idea when I was having a wee. I have no idea why!"
Phil: "Never go into a men's restroom with Nick Briggs. He'll point at you the whole time... Not with his finger."
Nick: "With my 'Exterminator'!" [everyone in the world groans]
[nick telling the story of watching "blink" at moffat's house, and moff's son josh hiding behind the couch just behind nick the whole time because it scared him, and his son's way of dealing with it was to whisper every plot twist into nick's ear two seconds before it happened. rob then says that moff uses his episodes to discipline his children]
Nick: "I really did hear him say, 'If you don't behave, daddy will make you watch his episode again'."
[talking about being executive producer of a show like doctor who and why it's incredibly difficult, and why RTD is so good at it]
Nick: "You have to figure out ways to be nasty in a nice way."
Gary and Phil: *exchange look*
the rest of the evening was filled with good-byes to those who were leaving, and hanging out with those who were left. it was a really wonderful con, and i feel really lucky to have met the friends, both old and new, whom i've made there.
and on a more serious note, my friend
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<3<3<3 to everyone i met and i'm hoping to see you all again next year.
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Date: 2009-12-03 08:15 pm (UTC)I do feel awful about it, but it was certainly hilarious to be stuck in the middle of. But if purchasing more blank nesting dolls for Gary is the reason why I just had to suffer going to bank and closing my bank account because it's been "compromised"... yeah... I HOPE HE APPRECIATES IT. =^^=
It was a pretty fun weekend, wasn't it?
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Date: 2009-12-03 08:19 pm (UTC)he will probably say it's your just reward for selling the nesting dolls to robert instead of him. because he is a bastard.
It was a pretty fun weekend, wasn't it?
yes! one of the best evaaaaah. :D
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Date: 2009-12-03 08:27 pm (UTC)This is very true. And I know that from now on, every time he sees me, he's going to give me an eyeroll. Followed up by a hug. I'M SO CONFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUSED.
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Date: 2009-12-03 09:13 pm (UTC):makes angel eyes:
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Date: 2009-12-03 09:16 pm (UTC)february, bb, february!
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Date: 2009-12-03 09:23 pm (UTC)But I need a place to staaaaaaay!
D'you know anyone looking for a roommate?
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Date: 2009-12-03 08:31 pm (UTC)I can vouch for both the stubble and the gorgeousness (and the fact that he was quite the snappy dresser).
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Date: 2009-12-03 10:24 pm (UTC)*begs to differ, but hey, to each his own~*
Tony: [actually horrified]: "Never rewrite Alan Moore! He's got a hit squad to deal with things like that!"
Gary: "Yes, we discovered that."
This is frighteningly plausible. XD
davros on skaro, showing him tending the wounded and patients suffering from radiation sickness from the war with the thals, and how passionate he was to end the war, which turned into passion to create the daleks, showing the nuclear bomb that hit the bunker he was in, injuring him and making him determined to create life that would be able to survive... in short, showing how he became davros.
..Not sure whether I love or hate this idea, but I love how the existence of fandom ensures that 8235 new fics on the subject will be appearing shortly
and some might actually be any good. ^___^Sounds like you had a fanTAStic experience. Yay!
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Date: 2009-12-03 11:28 pm (UTC)...Not sure whether I love or hate this idea
i love it! it's like that bit in SoD where you're thinking, "damn, this would be a great place for a flash back to gallifrey..." AND THEN IT HAPPENS.
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Date: 2009-12-04 12:19 am (UTC)..It could be awesome or awful, is what I was thinking, but admittedly it probably would have been rather brilliant.~
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Date: 2009-12-04 02:39 am (UTC)*eh, suspends disbelief and goes back to imagining the awesome version ^^*
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Date: 2009-12-03 11:00 pm (UTC)Er, I mean, Voyager is awesome. Amazingly batshit.
How did it get onto One doing Rose over the console, or don't I want to know?
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Date: 2009-12-03 11:25 pm (UTC)the sexiestTHE BEST.How did it get onto One doing Rose over the console, or don't I want to know?
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Date: 2009-12-04 12:33 am (UTC)Seriously, though, I'm glad you had the epic time you seem to have had. I have got to try this con thing sometime. I wanna meet Rob Shearman.
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Date: 2009-12-04 12:37 am (UTC)Thank you, thank you thank you, for your notes and for brightening my evening immensely :D
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Date: 2009-12-04 01:07 am (UTC)Magnificent write-up: you've actually made me quite want to go to a con, and I have always feared such things, but...ooh. (Obviously this is entirely based on the thought of being in the presence of Nick Briggs' Exterminator.)
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Date: 2009-12-04 02:42 am (UTC)chicago TARDIS is small, but not too small, if you know what i mean. there is nothing to fear!
Obviously this is entirely based on the thought of being in the presence of Nick Briggs' Exterminator.
*facepalms forever*
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Date: 2009-12-04 04:01 am (UTC)In any event. Rob's opinions about Colin Baker are ALWAYS wrong and I love, love, love that you take notes.
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Date: 2009-12-04 04:46 am (UTC)lololol! "then elyssa arrive and she made me miss everything good ever and i cried and she poked me. she is mean."
Rob's opinions about Colin Baker are ALWAYS wrong
not always! i'm pretty sure he thinks colin's the best of the doctors in big finish and loves writing for his audios. meanwhile i don't much like (tv) davison *or* colin, so obviously i must fail in all sorts of complicated ways.
except i don't and it's YOU ALL who fail! SEVEN FOREVER!and I love, love, love that you take notes.
:D i wish i'd taken more! i just realised that i did see one of the big finish panels i thought i missed, i just forgot to take notes for it! and it was the one where nick was talking about sherlock holmes as well! :(