Sadly, rather than fleshing out the story with additional scenes, descriptions, and subplots, ADF instead adds lots and lots of mediocre dialogue to existing scenes, instead. It's way useful for some things, and HELLA FUNNY in others. But if you're going to get a copy, I suggest getting the unabridged audio, for the non-stop hilarity that is Zach Quinto (particularly when he does Chekov and Scotty). Also, Quinto as sassy Uhura during the dive bar scene is WIN.
Also, I do not think I buy Spock and Uhura having any kind of physical relationship prior to the 'lift scene. It still feels close but platonic to me (plus that would make sense for Spock Prime and Uhura Prime, if they had the same relationship, which never crossed that line).
Sadly, rather than fleshing out the story with additional scenes, descriptions, and subplots, ADF instead adds lots and lots of mediocre dialogue to existing scenes, instead.
that's disappointing. he always did so much with the logs.
Also, I do not think I buy Spock and Uhura having any kind of physical relationship prior to the 'lift scene.
i can buy them having a private sexual relationship prior to that scene a hell of a lot easier than i can buy them making out in public on the transport pads. not just because of old series characterisation but beucase of how spock stopped the display of affection in the turbolift as soon as he made it to where he was going and then continued calmly down the corridor.
Yeah, but that's the point of the transporter room scene. Spock makes a choice Spock Prime couldn't/didn't make and acts on it. That's how we know from that point forward, their paths diverge. And he's not trying to be more-Vulcan-than-Vulcan to compensate for his human half, but accepts that he is neither wholly one nor the other but both.
He can't do that until Sarek tells him that he loved his mother. That's the difference bewteeen the two scenes and how he handles his grief and emotions, and that's the progress Spock makes as a character.
It took Spock Prime dying that one time to come to that same point in his life.
it just didn't convince me that that's what was happening. there's becoming comfortable with both parts of your heritage, as spock eventually does in the film trilogy, and there's making out in front of your fellow crewmembers. becoming comfortable with both his human and his vulcan heritage doesn't mean throwing away vulcan propriety entirely (or even normal human or star fleet propriety -- PDA in front of other officers seems like it's probably not the done thing, you know?), that idea that it was one or the other was what kept him conflicted for so long in the first place. i could have seen a quick kiss, or even a long, deep one if it was sudden, but they were just standing there making out as kirk walked into the transporter room, took his place on the pad, and then proceeded to watch them for a bit. to me it felt out of place, one of the obvious hollywood insertions.
like a lot in the movie the idea was good but the execution was distinctly shallow.
I don't think they were making out the entire time--you see them talking while Jim is talking to Chekov over comms. it wasn't until Jim walked over to the pad that you see Spock and Nyota kiss. And it didn't feel gratuitous to me? But I am also biased. I've spent the last week watching the movie over and over again, as I work on fic.
i have totally shipped spock and uhura in my mind since i was in middle school so i liked that the film posited a relationship, i just thought that particular scene just did it rather badly. like, hey audience, get it? GET IT?? which was too bad since the rest of the film actually managed it quite well.
I agree that was weird to me too. I wondered if this was how it was going to be every time spock went on a dangerous away mission. Total hollywood insertion, kinda like "well, we should get some booty action shots in case we never get the chance again."
But mostly the group of people I went with were just happy that they didn't have Uhura fall for Kirk.
dude, if they had to do it, i was sooooooo glad it was spock and uhura. and i could understand why the producers wanted kirk to see it, because it was a hilariously awesome way to undercut the whole "kirk always gets the girl" thing that even someone who's NEVER seen star trek knows. i just think they could have done that in a way that made more sense for the characters. there's no sense that it's odd or new for spock to be snogging uhura in front of people. it was just weird.
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Also, I do not think I buy Spock and Uhura having any kind of physical relationship prior to the 'lift scene. It still feels close but platonic to me (plus that would make sense for Spock Prime and Uhura Prime, if they had the same relationship, which never crossed that line).
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that's disappointing. he always did so much with the logs.
Also, I do not think I buy Spock and Uhura having any kind of physical relationship prior to the 'lift scene.
i can buy them having a private sexual relationship prior to that scene a hell of a lot easier than i can buy them making out in public on the transport pads. not just because of old series characterisation but beucase of how spock stopped the display of affection in the turbolift as soon as he made it to where he was going and then continued calmly down the corridor.
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He can't do that until Sarek tells him that he loved his mother. That's the difference bewteeen the two scenes and how he handles his grief and emotions, and that's the progress Spock makes as a character.
It took Spock Prime dying that one time to come to that same point in his life.
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like a lot in the movie the idea was good but the execution was distinctly shallow.
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i have totally shipped spock and uhura in my mind since i was in middle school so i liked that the film posited a relationship, i just thought that particular scene just did it rather badly. like, hey audience, get it? GET IT?? which was too bad since the rest of the film actually managed it quite well.
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But mostly the group of people I went with were just happy that they didn't have Uhura fall for Kirk.
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