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this probably doesn't need to be said to anyone who will actually read it, but i thought i'd make it clear nontheless. statements that are inappropriate in all circumstances:

Also, while it's not exactly on the subject, I'd be unwilling to accept a Doctor that is non-Caucasian appearing. And no, this is not due to any latent racist views on my part. I just don't see the character working that way.

I don't want a black Doctor. Because I want to fancy him and I don't really find black men attractive.

saying the doctor can't be non-white because the character doesn't "work that way"? racist. justifying not wanting a black doctor because you don't find black men attractive? racist. no, this is not up for debate. this should be clear, and yet apparently isn't to some people. mentioning that statements like this are racist is not an attack against whoever might have said it. it's a statement of fact. if someone says something racist they can own up to the racism of their statement or try and explain it away, it doesn't change facts.

i was much wordier in other places but ya'll shouldn't need this to be explained to you so i think we're good.

Date: 2009-05-09 02:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kindkit.livejournal.com
*headdesk* And just to make it more fun, some assholes on the meme are trying to pull the "but race is meaningless, therefore there's no such thing as racism" trick. As though the biological meaninglessness of race (which is true) somehow negates the incredible power of race's social and political meanings.

And I'm just too fucking tired and depressed already to wade in there and try to school people.

Date: 2009-05-09 02:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fourzoas.livejournal.com
I'm so glad that I've been way too busy to see what's up in those quarters lately. I might have popped a blood vessel or two.

Date: 2009-05-09 02:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] livii.livejournal.com
Meanwhile, to bring the tone down because that's what I do, I just discovered another way Will Smith is HOTTER THAN THE SUN to me. We just watched this clip: Boom Goes The Dynamite (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W45DRy7M1no) of the worst sportscaster ever, I feel sorry for the dude, but at 2:30 he utters that phrase and it's awesome. Anyway, THEN Will Smith is at the Oscars presenting and references it (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpLZ0mvMYlA) and I always thought I could not love Will Smith more, and then it turns out he's a nerd who knows YouTube memes.

In other news, you rock, as always, and I haven't even touched any of those threads on the meme in the last two days or so, because I just cannot deal.

Date: 2009-05-09 02:35 am (UTC)
ext_7899: the tenth doctor stands alone ([facepalm]: Ninth Doctor)
From: [identity profile] rhipowered.livejournal.com
Oh, christ on a pogo stick. I hate this fandom sometimes.

Date: 2009-05-09 02:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stunt-muppet.livejournal.com
Erm. This is going to sound very random since I just lurk here, but I was really glad you showed up in that meme discussion. I couldn't comment much since I was only sneaking peeks at the meme today, but you were a welcome voice of sanity in those threads and I wanted to say thank you.

Sadly, I think you might be right about the meme becoming 4chan. Which is a very, very sad thing to contemplate.

*goes back to lurking*

Date: 2009-05-09 03:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] violetisblue.livejournal.com
Why do people still bother with this fandom again?

Date: 2009-05-09 03:45 am (UTC)
ext_6531: (DW: Lady President)
From: [identity profile] lizbee.livejournal.com
Speaking of: SJA seems to come straight out of the 70s in its terrifying dystopian vision of a world where only people with jolly posh accents are left alive.

Really, [livejournal.com profile] thehornedgod? When did you turn into the anonmeme's class troll?

Date: 2009-05-09 08:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rapunzelita.livejournal.com
Well this is nice to wake up to *facepalm*

I've given up hope on the anonmeme since... Well, since it was created, really, because I never really had any hope about it in the first place. Anonmemes are bound to go that way anyway... But it's always disapointing to see to what depths it can sink.

*munches furiously on her cereals*

Date: 2009-05-09 01:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] neadods.livejournal.com
Oh, the old "I'm not racist, I just won't accept a non-Caucasian" argument. Right up there with great works of consistent internal logic such as "the Government should stay out of people's private lives, except for regulating who they can marry and what health services they get." Although I will say that the OP is right that it's not "any latent racist views." That's the very definition of a blatant racist view.

As for the second quote, wow, what a sense of entitlement. It's not just enough they have to be the right race, they have to be sexually attractive too. Because the world owes the OP eye candy! Racism and objectivism: two great bigotries that apparently go great together.

I'm a member [livejournal.com profile] doctorwho, although it's not in my reading filter. I wonder if it's worth bothering to comment or if it would be just shouting in the wind.


PS and off topic - congrats on the [livejournal.com profile] calufrax rec!

Date: 2009-05-10 01:15 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] infiniteviking
Whut you said. *nodnod*

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