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prof_pangaea) wrote2009-05-04 02:14 am
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sex and death
so apparently i will be reccing at
three_settings this week. check it out if you're curious as to what kind of fic makes me think, "oh that was quite sexy. oh, and also well-written. and i won't mind admitting to that in public. too much." or avoid that, if you're afraid to find out (or already knoooow and wish you didn't D:).
meanwhile, there's a thread on the anonmeme about whether gallifrey and the time lords should be brought back. and so i've been scrolling past this comment all day (which is part of thread where everyone's like, yeah get rid of it for good! stop bringing it up!) and every time i see it it HURTS MY SOUL:
Yeah, but thing is? New canon hasn't really made a case for its absence. I mean, it's present by its constant absence, more so even than Rose was.
other than the fact that that statement doesn't make logical sense (make a case, what?), it's strange to this commenter that the continued absence of the doctor's home planet is "present" within the show? what, is he going to forget he blew it up and wiped every being on it, including his own family, his own children, off the face of the universe? and it's even stranger that this is made more of an issue in the show than rose being gone?
i just. this statement does not compute. of course gallifrey's absence is mentioned more than rose's! GUYS HE DESTROYED HIS ENTIRE SOCIETY, HE COMMITED GENOCIDE AGAINST HIS OWN PEOPLE. HE KILLED HIS OWN CHILDREN. this is more important than a not!girlfriend, even if she was dead, and not alive and healthy with her entire family and an inherited job and inherited wealth. gah!!
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meanwhile, there's a thread on the anonmeme about whether gallifrey and the time lords should be brought back. and so i've been scrolling past this comment all day (which is part of thread where everyone's like, yeah get rid of it for good! stop bringing it up!) and every time i see it it HURTS MY SOUL:
Yeah, but thing is? New canon hasn't really made a case for its absence. I mean, it's present by its constant absence, more so even than Rose was.
other than the fact that that statement doesn't make logical sense (make a case, what?), it's strange to this commenter that the continued absence of the doctor's home planet is "present" within the show? what, is he going to forget he blew it up and wiped every being on it, including his own family, his own children, off the face of the universe? and it's even stranger that this is made more of an issue in the show than rose being gone?
i just. this statement does not compute. of course gallifrey's absence is mentioned more than rose's! GUYS HE DESTROYED HIS ENTIRE SOCIETY, HE COMMITED GENOCIDE AGAINST HIS OWN PEOPLE. HE KILLED HIS OWN CHILDREN. this is more important than a not!girlfriend, even if she was dead, and not alive and healthy with her entire family and an inherited job and inherited wealth. gah!!
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Also, I'm not sure it's that clever, to equate Gallifrey with Rose. One embodies failure, unmet obligations, lost chances, lost family, domesticity. The other is his home planet.
knowing what you could have, but being unwilling to settle down in order to have those things. yes, sounds familiar.
What I meant to say, before I got distracted, is that it's not necessarily positive for Rose, equating her with Gallifrey.
sorry, i was about to make a profound statement, but then i pictured rose in a silly time lord hat.
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sorry, i was about to make a profound statement, but then i pictured rose in a silly time lord hat.
Self-satisfied, short-sighted but capable of more, manipulative, dangerous when crossed -- she'd fit right in.
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(Also, Ten/Rose happened? WHERE? I was trying to make a vid, and it required footage of Ten being the one making overtures to Rose. There was no footage. Rose's romantic attraction to the Doctor was as unrequited as Martha's; she just didn't get the same level of headgames.)
(You could argue that she got even more headgames, since the Doctor basically strung her along.)
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that was mah first episode! i haven't seen it since i first saw it, er, nine years ago? gah.
Self-satisfied, short-sighted but capable of more, manipulative, dangerous when crossed -- she'd fit right in.
i seriously can't care enough about rose after JE to have very in-depth conversations about her, because it's impossible. RTD took away whatever depth there was was. probably if she'd been a character i was more invested in i would be trying to make some fanon to fix her, but as it is... yeah, i already wasted time on that after doomsday, so what's the point? she and handy will break up when she wants him to be the doctor and he can't be, and he'll blame her for being trapping him in a parallel world world without a TARDIS, and it'll be a huge mess. or, they'll live happily ever after. either way, RTD reduced all of her concerns to whether she was with her man, and thus there's not a lot i'm interested in exploring there.
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