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prof_pangaea) wrote2008-09-12 05:47 pm
prof_pangaea) wrote2008-09-12 05:47 pm
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doctor who: the forgotten no. 1, or: MARTHAAAAAAA
finally got the first issue of the forgotten from my local comic shop yesterday AND GUYS IT IS AWESOME. look at this gorgeousness:
i still haven't finished the first doctor who miniseries that IDW put out, because the art kept hurting my soul. i can't say that gary russell's writing was giving me much else to hang onto, either. as i haven't finished the series yet i'm not sure whether that may have changed by the last couple of issues, but i *can* say that tony lee's writing hooked me straight-away, left me looking forward to the next issue (an rereading this one a few times), and even had me jumping around my bed at one point. nerdily!
if you want to see even more awesome images from the first issue (i especially love this one from the first page) you should go to the interview that tony lee did with comic book resources here. i obviously did this months ago and saved every picture to my hard drive in a fit of fanboy glee, but other people may have missed it due to having a life or something. anyway: guys, i am all about this!
doctor: "i'm a time lord! i'm over 900 years old! i have no idea where i am! i keep falling over, too. ow."
martha: "yeah i noticed since i keep having to haul your arse around whenever you do. business as usual there, then!"
doctor: "is that a seal of rassilon on the wall? i feel as if i should be more concerned about this, but page limit constraints require me to remark on the next curious thing so we can advance the story. i should probably be worried about how the TARDIS is missing too -- oh look, an oldprop artifact!"
and then we get into a mysterious plot involving a museum dedicated to the doctor and places he's visited, and someone who is trying to weaken the doctor by wiping away all of his memories up until his last regeneration. which gives us a handy excuse for lengthy flashback sequences of win, like the one in this issue with ian, barbara, susan, and some egyptians:
this is why ian and barbara are made of perpetual win. if you could harness their win, it would be a renewable energy source that could power cities.
and of course the same can be said of martha, except maybe even moreso! tony lee really captures ten and martha's strange season three dynamic, where the doctor is alternately open and playful, then closed off and touchy -- though never to the problematic levels that season three itself indulged in. martha is determined and smart and inquiring --
and the doctor is king of deflection, as usual. but doesn't he look good kneeling in front of martha like that? RAWR.
even when he is being avoidant he can't help telling martha things (possibly for plot related reasons BUT STILL):
there's something really poignant about these panels, and how the doctor really does seem like a tired, old man here.
but who, WHO could be wiping away the doctor's memories? and why?
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yeah, this was the part where i may have lost my dignity slightly, what with the jumping about and yelling. thankfully no one was around to observe it. i am doubting it will be who i WANT it to be, not just because it would be WAY TOO AWESOME, but because he would probably never be caught dead in pinstripes. of course, then my brain comes up with crack theories like "doctor, did a future version of yourself grow a goatee because you missed your evil ex-boyfriend, and travel back to your own past to try and kill your past self?" OBVS THIS WOULD NEVER HAPPEN. EXCEPT FOR THAT ONE TIME.
i have to say that, having seen some of pia guerra's inks for this issue in the interview i linked above, i am really wondering about IDW's printing practises. it almost looks like they gave photocopies to the colourist, or somebody should have taken a lot more care when they were adjusting the threshold level of the scans. the inks in the finished comic just seem a lot less delicate than even the norm from converting a drawing into a printed page, and the super slick paper they're printed on just serves to emphasise this. however, charlie kirchoff does a pretty nice job with the colours, creating the sense of a starkly, artificially lit museum, and adding texture to the simple backgrounds. pia guerra gets the likenesses of the characters fairly well, but more importantly, her artwork has a real sense of how a humanoid body moves, or doesn't, as the case may be.
so to summarise: GUYS BUY THIS BOOK AND SUPPORT AWESOME DOCTOR WHO COMICS.
i still haven't finished the first doctor who miniseries that IDW put out, because the art kept hurting my soul. i can't say that gary russell's writing was giving me much else to hang onto, either. as i haven't finished the series yet i'm not sure whether that may have changed by the last couple of issues, but i *can* say that tony lee's writing hooked me straight-away, left me looking forward to the next issue (an rereading this one a few times), and even had me jumping around my bed at one point. nerdily!
if you want to see even more awesome images from the first issue (i especially love this one from the first page) you should go to the interview that tony lee did with comic book resources here. i obviously did this months ago and saved every picture to my hard drive in a fit of fanboy glee, but other people may have missed it due to having a life or something. anyway: guys, i am all about this!
doctor: "i'm a time lord! i'm over 900 years old! i have no idea where i am! i keep falling over, too. ow."
martha: "yeah i noticed since i keep having to haul your arse around whenever you do. business as usual there, then!"
doctor: "is that a seal of rassilon on the wall? i feel as if i should be more concerned about this, but page limit constraints require me to remark on the next curious thing so we can advance the story. i should probably be worried about how the TARDIS is missing too -- oh look, an old
and then we get into a mysterious plot involving a museum dedicated to the doctor and places he's visited, and someone who is trying to weaken the doctor by wiping away all of his memories up until his last regeneration. which gives us a handy excuse for lengthy flashback sequences of win, like the one in this issue with ian, barbara, susan, and some egyptians:
this is why ian and barbara are made of perpetual win. if you could harness their win, it would be a renewable energy source that could power cities.
and of course the same can be said of martha, except maybe even moreso! tony lee really captures ten and martha's strange season three dynamic, where the doctor is alternately open and playful, then closed off and touchy -- though never to the problematic levels that season three itself indulged in. martha is determined and smart and inquiring --
and the doctor is king of deflection, as usual. but doesn't he look good kneeling in front of martha like that? RAWR.
even when he is being avoidant he can't help telling martha things (possibly for plot related reasons BUT STILL):
there's something really poignant about these panels, and how the doctor really does seem like a tired, old man here.
but who, WHO could be wiping away the doctor's memories? and why?
...
yeah, this was the part where i may have lost my dignity slightly, what with the jumping about and yelling. thankfully no one was around to observe it. i am doubting it will be who i WANT it to be, not just because it would be WAY TOO AWESOME, but because he would probably never be caught dead in pinstripes. of course, then my brain comes up with crack theories like "doctor, did a future version of yourself grow a goatee because you missed your evil ex-boyfriend, and travel back to your own past to try and kill your past self?" OBVS THIS WOULD NEVER HAPPEN. EXCEPT FOR THAT ONE TIME.
i have to say that, having seen some of pia guerra's inks for this issue in the interview i linked above, i am really wondering about IDW's printing practises. it almost looks like they gave photocopies to the colourist, or somebody should have taken a lot more care when they were adjusting the threshold level of the scans. the inks in the finished comic just seem a lot less delicate than even the norm from converting a drawing into a printed page, and the super slick paper they're printed on just serves to emphasise this. however, charlie kirchoff does a pretty nice job with the colours, creating the sense of a starkly, artificially lit museum, and adding texture to the simple backgrounds. pia guerra gets the likenesses of the characters fairly well, but more importantly, her artwork has a real sense of how a humanoid body moves, or doesn't, as the case may be.
so to summarise: GUYS BUY THIS BOOK AND SUPPORT AWESOME DOCTOR WHO COMICS.
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soon there will be comic book two. and three. AND THEN SOON AFTER THAT THERE WILL BE SEVEN. OMG.
also: marthaaaaaaaaa!!
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but it would be a bit silly if they only let the bits that were filmed in black and white be black and white in the flashback. ARGH.
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How did you guess?
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Thanks for the info, this would have slipped past me otherwise. Fail.
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I have to say I love the Doctor going hurrrrgh in the last panel there. And I need to not have ideas about the Master wiping the Doctor's memory and taking his place
while keeping him as a rentboy in the TARDIS...Okay, I need to not read fic anymore.
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I have to say I love the Doctor going hurrrrgh in the last panel there.
there is even more HNNNGing in the rest of the comic! seriously, i think the doctor spends about half of the issue falling over. which is all right by me when pia guerra draws it so prettily.
And I need to not have ideas about the Master wiping the Doctor's memory and taking his place while keeping him as a rentboy in the TARDIS...
i have no idea why you should not have these ideas. :D
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You and me both. I still cringe because I do not like the cover art, but I really like the art inside, especially that first panel of the Doctor lying down on the ground. OM NOM ART. I plan on continuing this series. I hope the rest is consistent!
Also, I laughed so hard on the subway at the line about Martha's nostrils. I got weird looks.
EDIT. PS. Meant to say I wandered over here from
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the rest of the interior art should be consistent because pia guerra is doing the entire miniseries. WOOT, i say.
there are many, many wonderful lines in this book. "I was given it, I think. Something about Oscar Wilde and a theatre of midget assassins."
yay who_daily! also i met you at chicagoTARDIS last year, although i did not know who you were at the time. maybe we'll see eachother again this year?
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That is an EXCELLENT idea! I hope you do it, I'd love to see!
I've been wanting to go on a rant for ages, completely provided with scans to further emphasize the cringe-worthiness. But then I decide it's probably just a waste of my time. But OH, it pains me. I'm assuming you mean the reddish-orange cover with Martha and her sea-urchin hair? *shudders* Oh Martha, what have they DONE to you?!
yay who_daily! also i met you at chicagoTARDIS last year, although i did not know who you were at the time. maybe we'll see eachother again this year?
Yes, we did! And I sure hope so! I should be finalizing plans and such by early October. I had so much fun last year, I would love to go again!
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yay! okay, i will do it then.
yah, roche did the sea urchin hair. he's done the covers for all the regular (not classic reprint) IDW doctor who covers. when i was reading about the gary russell series it sounded like he was supposed to do the art for the whole thing, but then he only ended up doing the first issue (and the credits read: "art by nick roche, art assist by joe phillips, inking assist by german torres". none of the other issues have credits like that, so figured something went a bit wonky somewhere). i thought we would get lovely pia guerra excellence for the covers of the forgotten, and was a rather sad to discover such was not the case.
re: chicagoTARDIS: DO IIIIIIT. ahem. yes. this time we can hang out since we know each other. yay!
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Re: ChiTARDIS. Oh, alright! You've convinced me! =^^=
(PS. Mind if I friend you? For... uh... strategic keeping in touch purposes before and after said con? And ranting about poor comic book art?)
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also: for sures, my friend! artings is good, and so is keeping in touch!
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(Apologies, my computer sort of died so I'm on a friend's currently. MEEP)
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you're making me wish that my brain was better able to read comics.
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read a few comics and your brain will catch up. :D
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Talking Dalek Alarm Clock
I want one!
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The perspective. WOW.
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My first thought: Is it just me, or is the Doctor staring at Martha's breasts in the first scan?
It does seem to be a distinct improvement on the last comic series.
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dammit! now i will see that *forever*. which wouldn't normally be bad, except he looks so disturbed by whatever he is seeing!
It does seem to be a distinct improvement on the last comic series.
it really, really is. which is why everyone should buy it so IDW will continue to produce good things, as opposed to... the other stuff. yes.
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*can't talk, blown away by the awesome* O_O
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Must admit that the first picture did give me wacky Doctor-versus-mad-shippers thoughts. That's what I get for having ever gone on time_and_chips.
..But. Ian and Barbara's UTTER WIN. And Martha's utter win ("On your feet RIGHT NOW, Doctor, or I'm gonna just pick you up myself!!"). And the nostrils line. And the fact that the art is just so darned fantastic. And the tone of the interview... and just the idea of this and this killed me DED.... thanks so much for posting about this!
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"You're pairing me with... the kandyman...? NOOOOOOO!"
apparently the covers have nothing to do with the contents of the issues, so don't get too excited there. it's too bad because i would love to see the doctors all meet up and argue with one another. BUT tony lee keeps dropping hints that there will be something mindblowing in the last issue, so i have hope yet!