I sure hope it's going that way. Part of me's afraid though that people lied in the polls, too cowardly to admit they're not ready yet to accept something else but a white male president. This is all looking too good.
As I was sitting in the waiting room at my doctor's office yesterday, I overheard two men talking about the election. I wasn't really paying attention until of of them said quite clearly "We already got a WHITE house, we don't need a BLACK house!" Oh man, it was all I could do not to say something.
lizbee's entry is gone? So in response to your comment, my long-arse comment.
'Yob' is slightly different, because it isn't quite so pointedly classist, and it very specifically describes a type of behaviour, rather than being as vague and yet horribly specific (i.e., people say it's vague because they don't want to acknowledge that it mostly means 'walking or loitering while being working-class') as 'chav'. Like, my brother (I am upper-middle, very much so) could be a 'yob'.
Also, in response to america has its equivalents, one of the things that makes 'chav' so poisonous is how much it is tied to the truly incomprehensible to outsiders English class system. In America, as far as I've been able to observe, you are much more matter-of-fact about class, and class is much more based just on wealth (I have mostly observed this from Americans saying things that make me go, "WAIT, what the FUCK?" before realising that they're just using words differently - Obama's 'tax cuts for the middle class' is an excellent example, because that would cause RIOTS over here, whereas in the States it seems to have just been a straightforward "I will give tax cuts to this specific income group" statement.) whereas here, the people who are calling other people chavs and the people who are being called chavs? They will never change places in their lifetime. Ever. Oh, they might get respectively richer or poorer, but they will stay the same class. If someone tries to feign being middle-class but is actually working-class, they will be class traitors and if vice versa, they will be pathetic wannabes.
Long comment is long, because issue is complicated and also interesting.
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ALSO DUN JINX IT PLS. OH GOD OH GOD OH GOD. SO ANXIOUS.
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Part of me's afraid though that people lied in the polls, too cowardly to admit they're not ready yet to accept something else but a white male president.
This is all looking too good.
I came across this a while ago and it pretty much sums it up
http://www.resistcomfort.com/votetheissues/
Oh well. For me... I hope I'll wake up tomorrow to see that the optimistic me was right for once ;)
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As I was sitting in the waiting room at my doctor's office yesterday, I overheard two men talking about the election. I wasn't really paying attention until of of them said quite clearly "We already got a WHITE house, we don't need a BLACK house!" Oh man, it was all I could do not to say something.
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This is Emily with a new livejournal and I added you on awhile ago.
Did you ever get the postcard I sent or are you in Chicago now?
I'm here on a farm with JENNY and it is G R E A T.
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'Yob' is slightly different, because it isn't quite so pointedly classist, and it very specifically describes a type of behaviour, rather than being as vague and yet horribly specific (i.e., people say it's vague because they don't want to acknowledge that it mostly means 'walking or loitering while being working-class') as 'chav'. Like, my brother (I am upper-middle, very much so) could be a 'yob'.
Also, in response to america has its equivalents, one of the things that makes 'chav' so poisonous is how much it is tied to the truly incomprehensible to outsiders English class system. In America, as far as I've been able to observe, you are much more matter-of-fact about class, and class is much more based just on wealth (I have mostly observed this from Americans saying things that make me go, "WAIT, what the FUCK?" before realising that they're just using words differently - Obama's 'tax cuts for the middle class' is an excellent example, because that would cause RIOTS over here, whereas in the States it seems to have just been a straightforward "I will give tax cuts to this specific income group" statement.) whereas here, the people who are calling other people chavs and the people who are being called chavs? They will never change places in their lifetime. Ever. Oh, they might get respectively richer or poorer, but they will stay the same class. If someone tries to feign being middle-class but is actually working-class, they will be class traitors and if vice versa, they will be pathetic wannabes.
Long comment is long, because issue is complicated and also interesting.
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